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Recently some have started commenting about the Truth they've recently discovered (how it fits in the with the thousands of truths they've previously discovered I don't know).

Do you want to know the truth, folks? The honest to god, fundamental, underneath it all truth? Here it is... are you ready? THERE IS NO TRUTH.

Okay... well... truth is, there is truth... but it's personal truth. What you personally believe to be true. There is fact... but in truth, fact doesn't exist. Fact is perception of reality. We don't KNOW what is real... we know how we percieve reality to be, and accept that as fact. For example, you drop a ball on the ground. Fact: the ball fell. WRONG. Maybe the ball did fall... but maybe in another thousand years science will prove that the quantum state of the ball changed in response to your release and the ball didn't fall... it attracted the earth to move upward to it. Besides... which way is up, anyway? Maybe the ball didn't fall... maybe the earth did... it fell up... or down... who's to say? Which way is up, anyway? I bet I can find someone who believes as strongly as you do that it's not in the direction you're thinking.

Back to the subject... fact is (oy, this is going to get confusing) that there is no general truth... there is only personal truth. Truth is fact alterted by perspective.... and every persons perspective will be different, even if ever so slightly so... therefore, every person's truth must be different also. If I held up a block of wood that appeared square, and asked you to tell me what shape it was, you'd say it was square. No problem. But then, if I turned it to the side and you saw that it's depth was longer than it's hight and width, you'd suddely say it was a rectangle. Your truth changed because your perspective changed, and morever, in your mind, the facts changed. Wacky.

Truth is, we all decide what our truth is. Well, maybe we don't consciously decide, but truth is still very specific to us. What we don't want, need, and even actively resist is when people tell us what our truth should be. We may point out facts, or perhaps discuss how we might percieve other people's truths... but the fundamental job of defining or altering our own truths belongs to no one but ourselves. FYI, That's in bold because it's important. Okay... important to me... but this is my journal and my truth, so I'll decide what's important, thanks. :P

Wanna hear the REAL irony in this whole thing? (You're still reading, so I'm going to assume yes) The real irony is that I can't tell you that this is true, or that this is what you should believe, because doing so would violate my own person truth. Ain't that a pisser. So what I'm doing now is telling you what my perspective is... and you can do what you will with it. I won't disrespect you for disagreeing with me... I think you have that right, and you just might have a better grasp on reality than I do... but in any case you have a perspective that's different than mine... you've had different experiences in life and your beliefs have worked for you so far, as have mine... so good for you and good for me, and lets move on.

Nowthen, all that being said, I think most people can fall into three possible categories on this... those that agree with me, those that don't agree with me but can agree that my perspective is valid enough for me and that's okay, and those that disagree and believe that my truth needs to be fixed. The first person is fun for me to be around, and I find a nice, easygoing, comfortable place to spend my time. The second group I respect, but probably grind against my truths a bit and I don't feel as comfortable around, but I have a fundamental respect for, so don't have a problem with, and might even enjoy being around and talking to because I learn new things and gain a new perspective from them. The third group is the one that spends all of it's time telling us what what we should believe and that we're wrong, and why. They believe so strongly in their own perspective they completely lose sight of the fact that we might have our own that we believe in just as strongly, and that both are valid, no matter how strongly we might disagree, or how ineffective we may be at articulating ourselves on this topic.

So there we get to the point I was trying to make. My truth (and in case you haven't noticed, "belief" and "truth" are interchangeable for the purposes of this rant) says that it is entitled to believe whatever it wants, and it realy doesn't like to be told it's wrong. If you want to say what you believe, for yourself, feel free... you're entitled... and I might perk up a little and say "hey, you just might have a point there"... but that's my decision to make... not yours. So, if you want to go on and on telling me what you believe, then by all means do so. I'm happy to listen to another perspective... but do us both a favor and don't tell me what I should believe. You'll lose an audience, I'll lose a perspective, and none of us will benefit.
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From:dwo
Date:December 23rd, 2004 10:25 am (UTC)
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another visit from jehovah's witnesses? :p

actually, that was a fun read. thanks.

hoping you might make it out for mikey's birthday celebration at koc tonight. it's been awhile.
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From:planetboy
Date:December 23rd, 2004 10:31 am (UTC)

Dude!

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Whatever you're smoking, let me know where I can get some, OK? I'm lookin' for something good for New Years.

;-)
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From:kuteluvr
Date:December 23rd, 2004 10:55 am (UTC)

Re: Dude!

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Maybe if you told me how I was on crack, I'd tell you where you can get some... ;)
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From:kuteluvr
Date:December 23rd, 2004 11:35 am (UTC)

Re: Dude!

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Ya know, screw it... you don't need to expain yourself. I could be completely nuts... who knows. :)
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From:spawrhawk
Date:December 23rd, 2004 12:28 pm (UTC)
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*grins* I can only imagine the poor soul who ... stimulated this post.

Some valid points there though, sir. *hugs*
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From:redarius
Date:December 23rd, 2004 03:04 pm (UTC)

fix this ..

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in a word, yup. so much wrong has come from the perception that truth is not only universal, but that it can be enforced on others. silly nonsense, all of it. my truth is the sum of my experience and best guesswork available to me. no more, no less.
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From:nevie
Date:December 23rd, 2004 08:01 pm (UTC)
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There is such thing as shared perception, shared reality, and shared truths.

The more common reality you share with others, well, the more you can do.

Anyone who says there is NO TRUTH is fucking with your soul, perhaps because they do not have one of their own. I am therefore I think. You are therefore you think.

The Truth is, it all relates to yourself.

Anything that moves you away from yourself, including doubt, is harmful. Anything that moves you towards yourself is beneficial.

And that's The Simple Honest Truth.

-nevin





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From:kuteluvr
Date:December 23rd, 2004 09:58 pm (UTC)
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I think there are instances in which my reality will align with someone else's. The example of the ball dropping is a good one... I don't know of anyone that would disagree with the idea that the ball dropped... the other scenarios are unlikely or unrealistic from our individual, and coincidentally shared perspectives... but that doesn't mean something else isn't possibly true, and isn't potentially the reality. Further, it doesn't mean that in reality, the ball dropped... it simply means that we agree on the facts from our perspectives.

Fundamentally, I think you agree with me, where you say "...it all relates to yourself." Yes, this is exactly what I'm saying. Also, you say "...anything that moves you away from yourself, including doubt, is harmful." So what of other people that force you to accept their truth as your own? What if, by accepting their truth, you must invalidate or instill doubt into your own? Does that then mean that they are harmful?

The fundamental point is that we all have the right to make our own decisions about what is really "True". And we have the right to protect what we believe to be true (as also exemplified by your most recent posting). But, if we really believe this... that we have the right to decide what is true... than we also have to accept that others have that right also... and if we don't deserve to have our right to make that decision infringed upon, we have no right to infringe upon others... unless we believe that we're somehow better than everyone else... which I personally don't believe.

So again, believe what you want, or what you believe to be factual or true... but don't tell me what I should believe. And in instances where they conflict, or I feel oppressed because of my beliefs (aka, I'm told my beliefs are incorrect or invalid) I will no longer expose myself to that which causes me to create doubt in my beliefs. I won't force someone else to believe what I believe... no... that would be contradictory... and I won't remove someone else from having the ability to believe what they want (because that would be removing choice and the opportunity for discovery of truth, which I again personally again find contradictory).

This is about individual truth... and that's the only truth there really is.
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From:nevie
Date:December 24th, 2004 02:19 am (UTC)
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Believe in yourself, just yourself, and only yourself, and all will work out just fine.

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From:nevie
Date:December 24th, 2004 02:20 am (UTC)
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If your beliefs are so shaky that someone can invalidate them, that might be the problem right there.

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